WEBVTT 0 00:00:06.500 --> 00:00:08.066 >>> NO MATTER WHAT LARRY WAS 1 00:00:08.066 --> 00:00:09.100 SUPPOSED TO BE TREATING ON ME 2 00:00:09.100 --> 00:00:11.000 OVER THE YEARS, USUALLY MY 3 00:00:11.000 --> 00:00:13.367 ANKLES OR MY KNEES, HIS FINGERS 4 00:00:13.367 --> 00:00:14.633 ALWAYS SEEMED TO FIND THEIR WAY 5 00:00:14.633 --> 00:00:16.633 INSIDE OF ME. 6 00:00:16.633 --> 00:00:18.767 YOUR KINDNESS WAS SIMPLY A PLOY 7 00:00:18.767 --> 00:00:22.767 TO MOLEST ME EVERY CHANCE YOU 8 00:00:22.767 --> 00:00:23.033 GOT. 9 00:00:23.033 --> 00:00:24.767 >> WE'RE SPEAKING WITH THREE OF 10 00:00:24.767 --> 00:00:26.800 THE 156 WOMEN WHO CAME FORWARD 11 00:00:26.800 --> 00:00:28.033 TO SHARE THEIR PERSONAL STORIES 12 00:00:28.033 --> 00:00:29.967 OF ABUSE BY SOMEONE WHO THEY 13 00:00:29.967 --> 00:00:31.066 WERE TOLD THEY COULD TRUST. 14 00:00:31.066 --> 00:00:38.600 TEAM USA JIM GYMNASTICS DOCTOR, 15 00:00:38.600 --> 00:00:41.166 LARRY NASSAR. 16 00:00:41.166 --> 00:00:44.700 MATTY, YOUR REACTION TO NASSAR 17 00:00:44.700 --> 00:00:45.467 IN COURT AND HIS OWN VICTIM 18 00:00:45.467 --> 00:00:47.200 ROUTINE OF, WELL, IT WAS ALL 19 00:00:47.200 --> 00:00:50.900 MEDICAL AND HELL HATH NO FURY 20 00:00:50.900 --> 00:00:52.433 LIKE A WOMAN SCORNED, WHEN YOU 21 00:00:52.433 --> 00:00:53.533 WATCHED THAT AND HEARD THAT, 22 00:00:53.533 --> 00:00:55.433 WHAT WAS YOUR REACTION? 23 00:00:55.433 --> 00:00:57.633 >> I WAS ANGRY, BUT 24 00:00:57.633 --> 00:00:58.500 UNFORTUNATELY I WAS NOT 25 00:00:58.500 --> 00:01:03.667 SURPRISED WHATSOEVER. 26 00:01:03.667 --> 00:01:05.266 HE -- AT THE COURTHOUSE, HE WAS 27 00:01:05.266 --> 00:01:07.033 STILL TRYING TO MANIPULATE US 28 00:01:07.033 --> 00:01:11.100 LIKE WE WERE STILL HIS VICTIMS. 29 00:01:11.100 --> 00:01:13.200 TURNING AROUND AND LOOKING AT US 30 00:01:13.200 --> 00:01:18.166 AND SAYING HIS FAKE APOLOGY. 31 00:01:18.166 --> 00:01:20.367 AND YOU COULD JUST SEE, HE HAS 32 00:01:20.367 --> 00:01:22.967 NO REMORSE FOR WHAT HE DID. 33 00:01:22.967 --> 00:01:23.633 HE'S JUST -- 34 00:01:23.633 --> 00:01:25.133 >> HE'S SORRY FOR HIMSELF. 35 00:01:25.133 --> 00:01:27.567 >> HE'S A SAD, SAD, SAD HUMAN 36 00:01:27.567 --> 00:01:27.934 BEING. 37 00:01:27.934 --> 00:01:29.300 >> LET'S TALK ABOUT THE 38 00:01:29.300 --> 00:01:29.667 ENABLERS. 39 00:01:29.667 --> 00:01:34.734 THERE'S A LONG LIST FROM USA 40 00:01:34.734 --> 00:01:36.867 GYMNASTICS TO MSU AND BEYOND. 41 00:01:36.867 --> 00:01:43.433 CAN WE TALK ABOUT THIS WOMAN, 42 00:01:43.433 --> 00:01:45.734 KATHY KLAGIS. 43 00:01:45.734 --> 00:01:47.367 >> SHE WAS THE HEAD GYMNASTICS 44 00:01:47.367 --> 00:01:48.734 COACH AT MSU. 45 00:01:48.734 --> 00:01:50.266 SHE WAS ALSO THE FIRST ONE TO 46 00:01:50.266 --> 00:01:51.934 RECEIVE THE FIRST KNOWN REPORT 47 00:01:51.934 --> 00:01:52.834 OF SEXUAL ASSAULT. 48 00:01:52.834 --> 00:01:55.000 THERE WAS A GYMNAST WHO SPOKE UP 49 00:01:55.000 --> 00:01:56.433 WHO WAS 16 YEARS OLD. 50 00:01:56.433 --> 00:02:00.400 SHE CAME AND TOLD HER IN GRAPHIC 51 00:02:00.400 --> 00:02:00.867 DETAIL. 52 00:02:00.867 --> 00:02:01.767 SHE SAID HE WAS FINGERING HER 53 00:02:01.767 --> 00:02:03.066 LIKE A BOYFRIEND. 54 00:02:03.066 --> 00:02:04.467 HER RESPONSE WAS THAT'S NOT 55 00:02:04.467 --> 00:02:06.166 POSSIBLE, YOU MUST BE MISTAKEN. 56 00:02:06.166 --> 00:02:07.633 THEN SHE PROCEEDED TO PARADE IN 57 00:02:07.633 --> 00:02:09.000 ALL THE REST OF HER TEAMMATES IN 58 00:02:09.000 --> 00:02:10.800 FRONT OF HER TO HUMILIATE HER 59 00:02:10.800 --> 00:02:13.266 AND ASK IF ANYONE ELSE FELT THE 60 00:02:13.266 --> 00:02:13.834 SAME WAY. 61 00:02:13.834 --> 00:02:15.600 A 14-YEAR-OLD SPOKE UP WHO HAS 62 00:02:15.600 --> 00:02:16.934 TESTIFIED IN COURT BUT CHOSEN TO 63 00:02:16.934 --> 00:02:18.600 REMAIN ANONYMOUS AND SHE 64 00:02:18.600 --> 00:02:20.800 CONFIRMED LARISSA'S ACCOUNT AND 65 00:02:20.800 --> 00:02:22.100 SAID HE'S DOING THE SAME THING 66 00:02:22.100 --> 00:02:24.000 TO ME AND SHE REFUSED TO BELIEVE 67 00:02:24.000 --> 00:02:24.300 THEM. 68 00:02:24.300 --> 00:02:26.033 SHE SENT ALL OF THE GYMNASTS OUT 69 00:02:26.033 --> 00:02:27.667 OF THE ROOM EXCEPT LARISSA, 70 00:02:27.667 --> 00:02:29.300 PICKED UP A REPORT FORM AND SAID 71 00:02:29.300 --> 00:02:30.734 I COULD SIGN THIS, BUT THERE 72 00:02:30.734 --> 00:02:32.300 WILL BE SERIOUS CONSEQUENCES FOR 73 00:02:32.300 --> 00:02:34.533 YOU AND LARRY IF YOU FILE THIS. 74 00:02:34.533 --> 00:02:36.567 AND SO LARISSA BACKED DOWN. 75 00:02:36.567 --> 00:02:37.834 KATHY THEN CALLED LARRY TO TELL 76 00:02:37.834 --> 00:02:40.166 HIM WHAT LARISSA HAD SAID AND 77 00:02:40.166 --> 00:02:41.834 SENT LARISSA BACK FOR CONTINUED 78 00:02:41.834 --> 00:02:42.200 TREATMENT. 79 00:02:42.200 --> 00:02:44.133 SHE CONTINUED TO BE SUBJECTED TO 80 00:02:44.133 --> 00:02:45.233 MORE SEXUAL ABUSE. 81 00:02:45.233 --> 00:02:46.700 ALMOST EVERY KNOWN VICTIM OF 82 00:02:46.700 --> 00:02:48.033 LARRY NASSAR CAME AFTER THAT 83 00:02:48.033 --> 00:02:49.300 REPORT IN 1997. 84 00:02:49.300 --> 00:02:50.467 BUT THE COLLEGE RECEIVED 85 00:02:50.467 --> 00:02:51.934 ADDITIONAL REPORTS OF ABUSE IN 86 00:02:51.934 --> 00:02:53.367 THREE DIFFERENT ATHLETIC 87 00:02:53.367 --> 00:02:56.400 DEPARTMENTS DURING 1998, '99 AND 88 00:02:56.400 --> 00:02:56.700 2000. 89 00:02:56.700 --> 00:02:58.100 THERE ARE ALSO AT LEAST THREE 90 00:02:58.100 --> 00:02:58.800 PSYCHIATRISTS THAT RECEIVED 91 00:02:58.800 --> 00:03:01.400 REPORTS OF ABUSE, ONE OF THEM 92 00:03:01.400 --> 00:03:03.100 BEING KYLE STEPHENS' REPORT AND 93 00:03:03.100 --> 00:03:04.266 REPORTS FROM TWO OTHER ROWERS. 94 00:03:04.266 --> 00:03:07.200 NOT A SINGLE ONE OF THEM 95 00:03:07.200 --> 00:03:07.734 REPORTED, NOT ONE. 96 00:03:07.734 --> 00:03:09.467 >> NOT ONE REPORTED THE CRIME, 97 00:03:09.467 --> 00:03:11.000 THE ALLEGED CRIME AT THAT POINT. 98 00:03:11.000 --> 00:03:12.100 >> NOT ONE. 99 00:03:12.100 --> 00:03:13.467 >> WHAT ACCOUNTABILITY -- LET'S 100 00:03:13.467 --> 00:03:15.233 START WITH MSU. 101 00:03:15.233 --> 00:03:16.533 NOW THE UNIVERSITY PRESIDENT IS 102 00:03:16.533 --> 00:03:18.133 STEPPING DOWN WITH A STATEMENT 103 00:03:18.133 --> 00:03:19.467 THAT DOESN'T TAKE FULL 104 00:03:19.467 --> 00:03:19.934 RESPONSIBILITY. 105 00:03:19.934 --> 00:03:22.133 SHE BASICALLY SAYS, YOU KNOW, IN 106 00:03:22.133 --> 00:03:23.734 ANY SORT OF SITUATION LIKE THIS, 107 00:03:23.734 --> 00:03:25.166 PEOPLE ARE GOING TO HOLD 108 00:03:25.166 --> 00:03:27.500 SOMEBODY LIKE ME ACCOUNTABLE, SO 109 00:03:27.500 --> 00:03:27.967 OH WELL. 110 00:03:27.967 --> 00:03:28.667 HERE'S THE STATEMENT. 111 00:03:28.667 --> 00:03:30.100 THE LAST YEAR AND A HALF HAS 112 00:03:30.100 --> 00:03:31.567 BEEN VERY DIFFICULT FOR THE 113 00:03:31.567 --> 00:03:33.266 VICTIMS OF LARRY NASSAR, FOR THE 114 00:03:33.266 --> 00:03:35.033 UNIVERSITY COMMUNITY AND FOR ME 115 00:03:35.033 --> 00:03:35.433 PERSONALLY. 116 00:03:35.433 --> 00:03:37.233 TO THE SURVIVORS I CAN NEVER SAY 117 00:03:37.233 --> 00:03:41.767 ENOUGH AND I AM SO SORRY THAT A 118 00:03:41.767 --> 00:03:44.200 TRUSTED, RENOWNED PHYSICIAN -- 119 00:03:44.200 --> 00:03:44.667 HERE IT IS. 120 00:03:44.667 --> 00:03:47.700 AS TRAGEDIES ARE POLITICIZED, 121 00:03:47.700 --> 00:03:48.834 BLAME IS INEVITABLE. 122 00:03:48.834 --> 00:03:49.834 AS PRESIDENT IT'S ONLY NATURAL 123 00:03:49.834 --> 00:03:51.567 THAT I AM THE FOCUS OF THIS 124 00:03:51.567 --> 00:03:51.867 ANGER. 125 00:03:51.867 --> 00:03:53.066 DOES THAT SOUND LIKE TAKING 126 00:03:53.066 --> 00:03:53.667 ACCOUNTABILITY TO YOU? 127 00:03:53.667 --> 00:03:55.233 >> NOT AT ALL. 128 00:03:55.233 --> 00:03:56.734 >> BUT AS APPALLING AS THAT 129 00:03:56.734 --> 00:04:00.333 STATEMENT IS, THE BOARD OF TRUST 130 00:04:00.333 --> 00:04:02.400 TRUSTEES HAS BEEN SIGNIFICANTLY 131 00:04:02.400 --> 00:04:02.700 WORSE. 132 00:04:02.700 --> 00:04:04.133 THE VICE CHAIR CAME OUT SHORTLY 133 00:04:04.133 --> 00:04:05.767 AFTER I CAME FORWARD AND CALLED 134 00:04:05.767 --> 00:04:07.100 US AMBULANCE CHASERS WHO WERE 135 00:04:07.100 --> 00:04:08.934 LOOKING FOR A PAYDAY. 136 00:04:08.934 --> 00:04:10.433 HE RECENTLY SAID NO LEADERSHIP 137 00:04:10.433 --> 00:04:12.533 AT MSU SHOULD HAVE TO RESIGN 138 00:04:12.533 --> 00:04:13.533 BECAUSE THERE WOULD BE TOO MUCH 139 00:04:13.533 --> 00:04:14.133 COLLATERAL DAMAGE. 140 00:04:14.133 --> 00:04:16.233 >> WHO SAID THAT? 141 00:04:16.233 --> 00:04:18.066 >> VICE CHAIR FERGUSON ON THE 142 00:04:18.066 --> 00:04:19.533 MSU BOARD OF TRUSTEES. 143 00:04:19.533 --> 00:04:21.066 HE THEN SAID WE NEED TO REMEMBER 144 00:04:21.066 --> 00:04:23.767 THERE'S MORE GOING ON THAN JUST 145 00:04:23.767 --> 00:04:24.533 THIS NASSAR THING AND WE NEED TO 146 00:04:24.533 --> 00:04:26.367 LOOK AT THE FULL SCOPE OF MSU 147 00:04:26.367 --> 00:04:28.700 BECAUSE SIMON DID A REALLY GOOD 148 00:04:28.700 --> 00:04:29.934 JOB RAISING FUNDS FOR THEIR 149 00:04:29.934 --> 00:04:31.467 BASKETBALL STADIUM. 150 00:04:31.467 --> 00:04:34.667 >> WHAT HAPPENED TO KATHY 151 00:04:34.667 --> 00:04:35.000 KLAJES. 152 00:04:35.000 --> 00:04:36.567 >> SHE WAS ALLOWED TO RETIRE 153 00:04:36.567 --> 00:04:38.533 WITH FULL PENSION AND MSU HAS 154 00:04:38.533 --> 00:04:40.433 REPEATEDLY REFUSED TO 155 00:04:40.433 --> 00:04:41.800 ACKNOWLEDGE THE WAY THAT SHE 156 00:04:41.800 --> 00:04:43.500 HANDLED THAT REPORT OF ABUSE WAS 157 00:04:43.500 --> 00:04:44.734 INAPPROPRIATE AND THAT THERE 158 00:04:44.734 --> 00:04:46.166 WERE DEVASTATING CONSEQUENCES 159 00:04:46.166 --> 00:04:46.900 BECAUSE OF IT. 160 00:04:46.900 --> 00:04:49.033 >> AND THEN THERE'S THE QUESTION 161 00:04:49.033 --> 00:04:51.767 OF USA GYMNASTICS. 162 00:04:51.767 --> 00:04:53.333 USA GYMNASTICS, WHICH IS AN 163 00:04:53.333 --> 00:04:54.633 ORGANIZATION TO WHICH SO MANY 164 00:04:54.633 --> 00:04:55.700 PARENTS ENTRUSTED THEIR 165 00:04:55.700 --> 00:04:58.500 EXTREMELY TALENTED, HOPEFUL, 166 00:04:58.500 --> 00:04:59.633 ASPIRATIONAL YOUNG GIRLS, 167 00:04:59.633 --> 00:05:01.667 THINKING THAT THEY WOULD BE WELL 168 00:05:01.667 --> 00:05:02.266 LOOKED AFTER. 169 00:05:02.266 --> 00:05:03.900 I WANT TO GET TO THEM, BUT HAVE 170 00:05:03.900 --> 00:05:05.033 THEY CONTACTED ANY OF YOU? 171 00:05:05.033 --> 00:05:05.734 >> THEY HAVE NOT. 172 00:05:05.734 --> 00:05:07.967 >> NO. 173 00:05:07.967 --> 00:05:08.300 >> NO. 174 00:05:08.300 --> 00:05:09.033 >> NOT AFTER YOU CAME FORWARD 175 00:05:09.033 --> 00:05:10.734 WITH YOUR STORY, YOUR 176 00:05:10.734 --> 00:05:11.166 TESTIMONIALS? 177 00:05:11.166 --> 00:05:13.166 >> NO. 178 00:05:13.166 --> 00:05:14.266 IN FACT THE ENTIRE REASON THIS 179 00:05:14.266 --> 00:05:15.900 STORY CAME OUT IS BECAUSE THERE 180 00:05:15.900 --> 00:05:17.700 WERE SEVERAL OTHER ATHLETES WHO 181 00:05:17.700 --> 00:05:18.867 BLEW THE WHISTLE ON THE FAILURE 182 00:05:18.867 --> 00:05:20.700 TO REPORT SEXUAL ABUSE IN 183 00:05:20.700 --> 00:05:22.133 GENERAL WITHIN USAG. 184 00:05:22.133 --> 00:05:23.333 THEY HAD A POLICY OF NOT 185 00:05:23.333 --> 00:05:24.166 REPORTING ABUSE. 186 00:05:24.166 --> 00:05:26.900 THEY HAD BURIED THE FILES ON 54 187 00:05:26.900 --> 00:05:28.967 MEMBER COACHES IN A TEN-YEAR 188 00:05:28.967 --> 00:05:31.066 PERIOD ALLOWING THESE COACHES TO 189 00:05:31.066 --> 00:05:32.567 HOP FROM GYM TO GYM. 190 00:05:32.567 --> 00:05:33.967 DIRECTOR PENNY DEFENDED THIS 191 00:05:33.967 --> 00:05:35.133 POLICY UNDER OATH SAYING THEY 192 00:05:35.133 --> 00:05:36.467 HAD TO HAVE THIS POLICY TO, 193 00:05:36.467 --> 00:05:38.200 QUOTE UNQUOTE, AVOID A WITCH 194 00:05:38.200 --> 00:05:38.500 HUNT. 195 00:05:38.500 --> 00:05:40.033 NONE OF THOSE GYMNASTS THAT WERE 196 00:05:40.033 --> 00:05:41.133 ABUSED BY COACHES THAT WERE 197 00:05:41.133 --> 00:05:46.467 ALLOWED TO HOP FROM GYM TO GYM 198 00:05:46.467 --> 00:05:48.133 WERE EV-- 199 00:05:48.133 --> 00:05:50.133 >> I AM PROFOUNDLY SADDENED THAT 200 00:05:50.133 --> 00:05:52.200 A SINGLE ATHLETE WAS HURT. 201 00:05:52.200 --> 00:05:53.800 I WILL NOT WAIVER ON MY COMMIT 202 00:05:53.800 --> 00:05:55.400 NOENT FOCUS EACH AND EVERY DAY 203 00:05:55.400 --> 00:05:57.533 ON OUR ORGANIZATION'S HIGHEST 204 00:05:57.533 --> 00:05:59.233 PRIORITY, THE SAFETY, HEALTH AND 205 00:05:59.233 --> 00:06:00.934 WELL-BEING OF OUR ATHLETES. 206 00:06:00.934 --> 00:06:04.000 WE WILL CREATE A POWER THAT 207 00:06:04.000 --> 00:06:05.100 SUPPORTS THEM AND IT IS MY HOPE 208 00:06:05.100 --> 00:06:06.300 THAT EVERYTHING WE DO GOING 209 00:06:06.300 --> 00:06:07.633 FORWARD MAKES THIS VERY CLEAR. 210 00:06:07.633 --> 00:06:08.233 THANK YOU ALL. 211 00:06:08.767 --> 00:06:09.767 * HEY! 212 00:06:09.800 --> 00:06:12.133 * Bee to hive for that honey you know * 213 00:06:12.166 --> 00:06:13.633 * a sweet tasty bowl 214 00:06:13.700 --> 00:06:15.300 * of that get up and go 215 00:06:15.333 --> 00:06:18.300 * put in the good and the good will grow * 216 00:06:18.300 --> 00:06:21.367 * good goes around and around and around HEY! 217 00:06:21.433 --> 00:06:24.300 * honey to the O is the yum in yo bowl * 218 00:06:24.333 --> 00:06:27.400 * playing around that's how we roll * 219 00:06:27.433 --> 00:06:30.433 * start with the good and watch good flow * 220 00:06:30.433 --> 00:06:33.300 * good goes around and around and around HEY! * 221 00:06:33.300 --> 00:06:38.033 Speaking of good, you'll love New Chocolate Peanut Butter Cheerios. 222 00:06:40.767 --> 00:06:42.567 I made a vow to love you faithfully. 223 00:06:42.567 --> 00:06:43.934 And to keep you safe. 224 00:06:44.600 --> 00:06:46.200 How the hell are you, Ana?