0 00:00:06,500 --> 00:00:08,066 >>> NO MATTER WHAT LARRY WAS 1 00:00:08,066 --> 00:00:09,100 SUPPOSED TO BE TREATING ON ME 2 00:00:09,100 --> 00:00:11,000 OVER THE YEARS, USUALLY MY 3 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:13,367 ANKLES OR MY KNEES, HIS FINGERS 4 00:00:13,367 --> 00:00:14,633 ALWAYS SEEMED TO FIND THEIR WAY 5 00:00:14,633 --> 00:00:16,633 INSIDE OF ME. 6 00:00:16,633 --> 00:00:18,767 YOUR KINDNESS WAS SIMPLY A PLOY 7 00:00:18,767 --> 00:00:22,767 TO MOLEST ME EVERY CHANCE YOU 8 00:00:22,767 --> 00:00:23,033 GOT. 9 00:00:23,033 --> 00:00:24,767 >> WE'RE SPEAKING WITH THREE OF 10 00:00:24,767 --> 00:00:26,800 THE 156 WOMEN WHO CAME FORWARD 11 00:00:26,800 --> 00:00:28,033 TO SHARE THEIR PERSONAL STORIES 12 00:00:28,033 --> 00:00:29,967 OF ABUSE BY SOMEONE WHO THEY 13 00:00:29,967 --> 00:00:31,066 WERE TOLD THEY COULD TRUST. 14 00:00:31,066 --> 00:00:38,600 TEAM USA JIM GYMNASTICS DOCTOR, 15 00:00:38,600 --> 00:00:41,166 LARRY NASSAR. 16 00:00:41,166 --> 00:00:44,700 MATTY, YOUR REACTION TO NASSAR 17 00:00:44,700 --> 00:00:45,467 IN COURT AND HIS OWN VICTIM 18 00:00:45,467 --> 00:00:47,200 ROUTINE OF, WELL, IT WAS ALL 19 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:50,900 MEDICAL AND HELL HATH NO FURY 20 00:00:50,900 --> 00:00:52,433 LIKE A WOMAN SCORNED, WHEN YOU 21 00:00:52,433 --> 00:00:53,533 WATCHED THAT AND HEARD THAT, 22 00:00:53,533 --> 00:00:55,433 WHAT WAS YOUR REACTION? 23 00:00:55,433 --> 00:00:57,633 >> I WAS ANGRY, BUT 24 00:00:57,633 --> 00:00:58,500 UNFORTUNATELY I WAS NOT 25 00:00:58,500 --> 00:01:03,667 SURPRISED WHATSOEVER. 26 00:01:03,667 --> 00:01:05,266 HE -- AT THE COURTHOUSE, HE WAS 27 00:01:05,266 --> 00:01:07,033 STILL TRYING TO MANIPULATE US 28 00:01:07,033 --> 00:01:11,100 LIKE WE WERE STILL HIS VICTIMS. 29 00:01:11,100 --> 00:01:13,200 TURNING AROUND AND LOOKING AT US 30 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:18,166 AND SAYING HIS FAKE APOLOGY. 31 00:01:18,166 --> 00:01:20,367 AND YOU COULD JUST SEE, HE HAS 32 00:01:20,367 --> 00:01:22,967 NO REMORSE FOR WHAT HE DID. 33 00:01:22,967 --> 00:01:23,633 HE'S JUST -- 34 00:01:23,633 --> 00:01:25,133 >> HE'S SORRY FOR HIMSELF. 35 00:01:25,133 --> 00:01:27,567 >> HE'S A SAD, SAD, SAD HUMAN 36 00:01:27,567 --> 00:01:27,934 BEING. 37 00:01:27,934 --> 00:01:29,300 >> LET'S TALK ABOUT THE 38 00:01:29,300 --> 00:01:29,667 ENABLERS. 39 00:01:29,667 --> 00:01:34,734 THERE'S A LONG LIST FROM USA 40 00:01:34,734 --> 00:01:36,867 GYMNASTICS TO MSU AND BEYOND. 41 00:01:36,867 --> 00:01:43,433 CAN WE TALK ABOUT THIS WOMAN, 42 00:01:43,433 --> 00:01:45,734 KATHY KLAGIS. 43 00:01:45,734 --> 00:01:47,367 >> SHE WAS THE HEAD GYMNASTICS 44 00:01:47,367 --> 00:01:48,734 COACH AT MSU. 45 00:01:48,734 --> 00:01:50,266 SHE WAS ALSO THE FIRST ONE TO 46 00:01:50,266 --> 00:01:51,934 RECEIVE THE FIRST KNOWN REPORT 47 00:01:51,934 --> 00:01:52,834 OF SEXUAL ASSAULT. 48 00:01:52,834 --> 00:01:55,000 THERE WAS A GYMNAST WHO SPOKE UP 49 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:56,433 WHO WAS 16 YEARS OLD. 50 00:01:56,433 --> 00:02:00,400 SHE CAME AND TOLD HER IN GRAPHIC 51 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:00,867 DETAIL. 52 00:02:00,867 --> 00:02:01,767 SHE SAID HE WAS FINGERING HER 53 00:02:01,767 --> 00:02:03,066 LIKE A BOYFRIEND. 54 00:02:03,066 --> 00:02:04,467 HER RESPONSE WAS THAT'S NOT 55 00:02:04,467 --> 00:02:06,166 POSSIBLE, YOU MUST BE MISTAKEN. 56 00:02:06,166 --> 00:02:07,633 THEN SHE PROCEEDED TO PARADE IN 57 00:02:07,633 --> 00:02:09,000 ALL THE REST OF HER TEAMMATES IN 58 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:10,800 FRONT OF HER TO HUMILIATE HER 59 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:13,266 AND ASK IF ANYONE ELSE FELT THE 60 00:02:13,266 --> 00:02:13,834 SAME WAY. 61 00:02:13,834 --> 00:02:15,600 A 14-YEAR-OLD SPOKE UP WHO HAS 62 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:16,934 TESTIFIED IN COURT BUT CHOSEN TO 63 00:02:16,934 --> 00:02:18,600 REMAIN ANONYMOUS AND SHE 64 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:20,800 CONFIRMED LARISSA'S ACCOUNT AND 65 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:22,100 SAID HE'S DOING THE SAME THING 66 00:02:22,100 --> 00:02:24,000 TO ME AND SHE REFUSED TO BELIEVE 67 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:24,300 THEM. 68 00:02:24,300 --> 00:02:26,033 SHE SENT ALL OF THE GYMNASTS OUT 69 00:02:26,033 --> 00:02:27,667 OF THE ROOM EXCEPT LARISSA, 70 00:02:27,667 --> 00:02:29,300 PICKED UP A REPORT FORM AND SAID 71 00:02:29,300 --> 00:02:30,734 I COULD SIGN THIS, BUT THERE 72 00:02:30,734 --> 00:02:32,300 WILL BE SERIOUS CONSEQUENCES FOR 73 00:02:32,300 --> 00:02:34,533 YOU AND LARRY IF YOU FILE THIS. 74 00:02:34,533 --> 00:02:36,567 AND SO LARISSA BACKED DOWN. 75 00:02:36,567 --> 00:02:37,834 KATHY THEN CALLED LARRY TO TELL 76 00:02:37,834 --> 00:02:40,166 HIM WHAT LARISSA HAD SAID AND 77 00:02:40,166 --> 00:02:41,834 SENT LARISSA BACK FOR CONTINUED 78 00:02:41,834 --> 00:02:42,200 TREATMENT. 79 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:44,133 SHE CONTINUED TO BE SUBJECTED TO 80 00:02:44,133 --> 00:02:45,233 MORE SEXUAL ABUSE. 81 00:02:45,233 --> 00:02:46,700 ALMOST EVERY KNOWN VICTIM OF 82 00:02:46,700 --> 00:02:48,033 LARRY NASSAR CAME AFTER THAT 83 00:02:48,033 --> 00:02:49,300 REPORT IN 1997. 84 00:02:49,300 --> 00:02:50,467 BUT THE COLLEGE RECEIVED 85 00:02:50,467 --> 00:02:51,934 ADDITIONAL REPORTS OF ABUSE IN 86 00:02:51,934 --> 00:02:53,367 THREE DIFFERENT ATHLETIC 87 00:02:53,367 --> 00:02:56,400 DEPARTMENTS DURING 1998, '99 AND 88 00:02:56,400 --> 00:02:56,700 2000. 89 00:02:56,700 --> 00:02:58,100 THERE ARE ALSO AT LEAST THREE 90 00:02:58,100 --> 00:02:58,800 PSYCHIATRISTS THAT RECEIVED 91 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:01,400 REPORTS OF ABUSE, ONE OF THEM 92 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:03,100 BEING KYLE STEPHENS' REPORT AND 93 00:03:03,100 --> 00:03:04,266 REPORTS FROM TWO OTHER ROWERS. 94 00:03:04,266 --> 00:03:07,200 NOT A SINGLE ONE OF THEM 95 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:07,734 REPORTED, NOT ONE. 96 00:03:07,734 --> 00:03:09,467 >> NOT ONE REPORTED THE CRIME, 97 00:03:09,467 --> 00:03:11,000 THE ALLEGED CRIME AT THAT POINT. 98 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:12,100 >> NOT ONE. 99 00:03:12,100 --> 00:03:13,467 >> WHAT ACCOUNTABILITY -- LET'S 100 00:03:13,467 --> 00:03:15,233 START WITH MSU. 101 00:03:15,233 --> 00:03:16,533 NOW THE UNIVERSITY PRESIDENT IS 102 00:03:16,533 --> 00:03:18,133 STEPPING DOWN WITH A STATEMENT 103 00:03:18,133 --> 00:03:19,467 THAT DOESN'T TAKE FULL 104 00:03:19,467 --> 00:03:19,934 RESPONSIBILITY. 105 00:03:19,934 --> 00:03:22,133 SHE BASICALLY SAYS, YOU KNOW, IN 106 00:03:22,133 --> 00:03:23,734 ANY SORT OF SITUATION LIKE THIS, 107 00:03:23,734 --> 00:03:25,166 PEOPLE ARE GOING TO HOLD 108 00:03:25,166 --> 00:03:27,500 SOMEBODY LIKE ME ACCOUNTABLE, SO 109 00:03:27,500 --> 00:03:27,967 OH WELL. 110 00:03:27,967 --> 00:03:28,667 HERE'S THE STATEMENT. 111 00:03:28,667 --> 00:03:30,100 THE LAST YEAR AND A HALF HAS 112 00:03:30,100 --> 00:03:31,567 BEEN VERY DIFFICULT FOR THE 113 00:03:31,567 --> 00:03:33,266 VICTIMS OF LARRY NASSAR, FOR THE 114 00:03:33,266 --> 00:03:35,033 UNIVERSITY COMMUNITY AND FOR ME 115 00:03:35,033 --> 00:03:35,433 PERSONALLY. 116 00:03:35,433 --> 00:03:37,233 TO THE SURVIVORS I CAN NEVER SAY 117 00:03:37,233 --> 00:03:41,767 ENOUGH AND I AM SO SORRY THAT A 118 00:03:41,767 --> 00:03:44,200 TRUSTED, RENOWNED PHYSICIAN -- 119 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:44,667 HERE IT IS. 120 00:03:44,667 --> 00:03:47,700 AS TRAGEDIES ARE POLITICIZED, 121 00:03:47,700 --> 00:03:48,834 BLAME IS INEVITABLE. 122 00:03:48,834 --> 00:03:49,834 AS PRESIDENT IT'S ONLY NATURAL 123 00:03:49,834 --> 00:03:51,567 THAT I AM THE FOCUS OF THIS 124 00:03:51,567 --> 00:03:51,867 ANGER. 125 00:03:51,867 --> 00:03:53,066 DOES THAT SOUND LIKE TAKING 126 00:03:53,066 --> 00:03:53,667 ACCOUNTABILITY TO YOU? 127 00:03:53,667 --> 00:03:55,233 >> NOT AT ALL. 128 00:03:55,233 --> 00:03:56,734 >> BUT AS APPALLING AS THAT 129 00:03:56,734 --> 00:04:00,333 STATEMENT IS, THE BOARD OF TRUST 130 00:04:00,333 --> 00:04:02,400 TRUSTEES HAS BEEN SIGNIFICANTLY 131 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:02,700 WORSE. 132 00:04:02,700 --> 00:04:04,133 THE VICE CHAIR CAME OUT SHORTLY 133 00:04:04,133 --> 00:04:05,767 AFTER I CAME FORWARD AND CALLED 134 00:04:05,767 --> 00:04:07,100 US AMBULANCE CHASERS WHO WERE 135 00:04:07,100 --> 00:04:08,934 LOOKING FOR A PAYDAY. 136 00:04:08,934 --> 00:04:10,433 HE RECENTLY SAID NO LEADERSHIP 137 00:04:10,433 --> 00:04:12,533 AT MSU SHOULD HAVE TO RESIGN 138 00:04:12,533 --> 00:04:13,533 BECAUSE THERE WOULD BE TOO MUCH 139 00:04:13,533 --> 00:04:14,133 COLLATERAL DAMAGE. 140 00:04:14,133 --> 00:04:16,233 >> WHO SAID THAT? 141 00:04:16,233 --> 00:04:18,066 >> VICE CHAIR FERGUSON ON THE 142 00:04:18,066 --> 00:04:19,533 MSU BOARD OF TRUSTEES. 143 00:04:19,533 --> 00:04:21,066 HE THEN SAID WE NEED TO REMEMBER 144 00:04:21,066 --> 00:04:23,767 THERE'S MORE GOING ON THAN JUST 145 00:04:23,767 --> 00:04:24,533 THIS NASSAR THING AND WE NEED TO 146 00:04:24,533 --> 00:04:26,367 LOOK AT THE FULL SCOPE OF MSU 147 00:04:26,367 --> 00:04:28,700 BECAUSE SIMON DID A REALLY GOOD 148 00:04:28,700 --> 00:04:29,934 JOB RAISING FUNDS FOR THEIR 149 00:04:29,934 --> 00:04:31,467 BASKETBALL STADIUM. 150 00:04:31,467 --> 00:04:34,667 >> WHAT HAPPENED TO KATHY 151 00:04:34,667 --> 00:04:35,000 KLAJES. 152 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:36,567 >> SHE WAS ALLOWED TO RETIRE 153 00:04:36,567 --> 00:04:38,533 WITH FULL PENSION AND MSU HAS 154 00:04:38,533 --> 00:04:40,433 REPEATEDLY REFUSED TO 155 00:04:40,433 --> 00:04:41,800 ACKNOWLEDGE THE WAY THAT SHE 156 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:43,500 HANDLED THAT REPORT OF ABUSE WAS 157 00:04:43,500 --> 00:04:44,734 INAPPROPRIATE AND THAT THERE 158 00:04:44,734 --> 00:04:46,166 WERE DEVASTATING CONSEQUENCES 159 00:04:46,166 --> 00:04:46,900 BECAUSE OF IT. 160 00:04:46,900 --> 00:04:49,033 >> AND THEN THERE'S THE QUESTION 161 00:04:49,033 --> 00:04:51,767 OF USA GYMNASTICS. 162 00:04:51,767 --> 00:04:53,333 USA GYMNASTICS, WHICH IS AN 163 00:04:53,333 --> 00:04:54,633 ORGANIZATION TO WHICH SO MANY 164 00:04:54,633 --> 00:04:55,700 PARENTS ENTRUSTED THEIR 165 00:04:55,700 --> 00:04:58,500 EXTREMELY TALENTED, HOPEFUL, 166 00:04:58,500 --> 00:04:59,633 ASPIRATIONAL YOUNG GIRLS, 167 00:04:59,633 --> 00:05:01,667 THINKING THAT THEY WOULD BE WELL 168 00:05:01,667 --> 00:05:02,266 LOOKED AFTER. 169 00:05:02,266 --> 00:05:03,900 I WANT TO GET TO THEM, BUT HAVE 170 00:05:03,900 --> 00:05:05,033 THEY CONTACTED ANY OF YOU? 171 00:05:05,033 --> 00:05:05,734 >> THEY HAVE NOT. 172 00:05:05,734 --> 00:05:07,967 >> NO. 173 00:05:07,967 --> 00:05:08,300 >> NO. 174 00:05:08,300 --> 00:05:09,033 >> NOT AFTER YOU CAME FORWARD 175 00:05:09,033 --> 00:05:10,734 WITH YOUR STORY, YOUR 176 00:05:10,734 --> 00:05:11,166 TESTIMONIALS? 177 00:05:11,166 --> 00:05:13,166 >> NO. 178 00:05:13,166 --> 00:05:14,266 IN FACT THE ENTIRE REASON THIS 179 00:05:14,266 --> 00:05:15,900 STORY CAME OUT IS BECAUSE THERE 180 00:05:15,900 --> 00:05:17,700 WERE SEVERAL OTHER ATHLETES WHO 181 00:05:17,700 --> 00:05:18,867 BLEW THE WHISTLE ON THE FAILURE 182 00:05:18,867 --> 00:05:20,700 TO REPORT SEXUAL ABUSE IN 183 00:05:20,700 --> 00:05:22,133 GENERAL WITHIN USAG. 184 00:05:22,133 --> 00:05:23,333 THEY HAD A POLICY OF NOT 185 00:05:23,333 --> 00:05:24,166 REPORTING ABUSE. 186 00:05:24,166 --> 00:05:26,900 THEY HAD BURIED THE FILES ON 54 187 00:05:26,900 --> 00:05:28,967 MEMBER COACHES IN A TEN-YEAR 188 00:05:28,967 --> 00:05:31,066 PERIOD ALLOWING THESE COACHES TO 189 00:05:31,066 --> 00:05:32,567 HOP FROM GYM TO GYM. 190 00:05:32,567 --> 00:05:33,967 DIRECTOR PENNY DEFENDED THIS 191 00:05:33,967 --> 00:05:35,133 POLICY UNDER OATH SAYING THEY 192 00:05:35,133 --> 00:05:36,467 HAD TO HAVE THIS POLICY TO, 193 00:05:36,467 --> 00:05:38,200 QUOTE UNQUOTE, AVOID A WITCH 194 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:38,500 HUNT. 195 00:05:38,500 --> 00:05:40,033 NONE OF THOSE GYMNASTS THAT WERE 196 00:05:40,033 --> 00:05:41,133 ABUSED BY COACHES THAT WERE 197 00:05:41,133 --> 00:05:46,467 ALLOWED TO HOP FROM GYM TO GYM 198 00:05:46,467 --> 00:05:48,133 WERE EV-- 199 00:05:48,133 --> 00:05:50,133 >> I AM PROFOUNDLY SADDENED THAT 200 00:05:50,133 --> 00:05:52,200 A SINGLE ATHLETE WAS HURT. 201 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:53,800 I WILL NOT WAIVER ON MY COMMIT 202 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:55,400 NOENT FOCUS EACH AND EVERY DAY 203 00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:57,533 ON OUR ORGANIZATION'S HIGHEST 204 00:05:57,533 --> 00:05:59,233 PRIORITY, THE SAFETY, HEALTH AND 205 00:05:59,233 --> 00:06:00,934 WELL-BEING OF OUR ATHLETES. 206 00:06:00,934 --> 00:06:04,000 WE WILL CREATE A POWER THAT 207 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:05,100 SUPPORTS THEM AND IT IS MY HOPE 208 00:06:05,100 --> 00:06:06,300 THAT EVERYTHING WE DO GOING 209 00:06:06,300 --> 00:06:07,633 FORWARD MAKES THIS VERY CLEAR. 210 00:06:07,633 --> 00:06:08,233 THANK YOU ALL. 211 00:06:08,767 --> 00:06:09,767 * HEY! 212 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:12,133 * Bee to hive for that honey you know * 213 00:06:12,166 --> 00:06:13,633 * a sweet tasty bowl 214 00:06:13,700 --> 00:06:15,300 * of that get up and go 215 00:06:15,333 --> 00:06:18,300 * put in the good and the good will grow * 216 00:06:18,300 --> 00:06:21,367 * good goes around and around and around HEY! 217 00:06:21,433 --> 00:06:24,300 * honey to the O is the yum in yo bowl * 218 00:06:24,333 --> 00:06:27,400 * playing around that's how we roll * 219 00:06:27,433 --> 00:06:30,433 * start with the good and watch good flow * 220 00:06:30,433 --> 00:06:33,300 * good goes around and around and around HEY! * 221 00:06:33,300 --> 00:06:38,033 Speaking of good, you'll love New Chocolate Peanut Butter Cheerios. 222 00:06:40,767 --> 00:06:42,567 I made a vow to love you faithfully. 223 00:06:42,567 --> 00:06:43,934 And to keep you safe. 224 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:46,200 How the hell are you, Ana?